Thursday, May 15, 2003

Last night: Dance rehearsal.

"Oliver Button Is A Star"... I'm really disappointed that I'm not going to get to see this LIVE at Carnegie, as I'm going to be in the dressing room (I assume). It's really a powerful piece, and the acting is getting better and better. J referred to dance rehearsal the other days as a "job" for me, but I honestly learn more about people at dance rehearsal than I do anywhere else these days.

Tomorrow: Graduation. Sigh. My friend invited me to this dinner by Wall Street tomorrow night, but I can't very well leave my family, especially after my grandma flew up from Florida for this. Will have to wait unitl Saturday to hang out.

5 weeks minus one day until Carnegie. I need to stop obsessing, or I'm going to be a very sad girl come June 19!
Last night: Dance rehearsal.

"Oliver Button Is A Star"... I'm really disappointed that I'm not going to get to see this LIVE at Carnegie, as I'm going to be in the dressing room (I assume). It's really a powerful piece, and the acting is getting better and better. J referred to dance rehearsal the other days as a "job" for me, but I honestly learn more about people at dance rehearsal than I do anywhere else these days.

Tomorrow: Graduation. Sigh. My friend invited me to this dinner by Wall Street tomorrow night, but I can't very well leave my family, especially after my grandma flew up from Florida for this. Will have to wait unitl Saturday to hang out.

5 weeks minus one day until Carnegie. I need to stop obsessing, or I'm going to be a very sad girl come June 19!

Tuesday, July 23, 2002

Wow. Next week is gonna rock. "Signs" on Tuesday (will have to tape The Mole) and "Hairspray" on Thursday.

I am a happy girl!

Sunday, July 21, 2002

Hi Lisa :)

I'm so short winded recently. Not much too say. Very busy living :)

Only 3 weeks till vacation time. Whoo-weee :) A whole week on the beach, with no one to bother me, and lots of fun people to meet in the bars.

And, I made it to the 4th round of "The Gayest Link" last night. Yay new rules!

Wednesday, July 17, 2002




Bonus Round & Positoid Discussions
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NedSykes
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(7/16/02 10:28:56 am)
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Okay, the number one complaint I get from my Christian friends about fags is that the fags are constantly trying to shove their sexuality down the throats of hetero-loving Americans (no pun intended).

The example they tend to argue is that this is often done through "Gay Pride" events where the flamers come out in droves and subject an unsuspecting public to all kinds of uncomfortable visuals and acts of deviance. Unfortunately, I have to agree with them on this to a point.

But I find it frustrating how people don't "GET" that if you try to oppress that which comes naturally, you only encourage people to speak up and fight. The thing that bugs me is that these idiots don't comprehend that they've brought this shit on themselves... they really believe it's being forced upon them, because they don't have "Hetero Pride" days...

I don't know what my question is... I suppose it's this... If the gay people in the room got all the civil rights they are fighting for, would they cease and desist with the pride days? I mean what's important? Equal rights or acceptance? The former may be possible, but I have a feeling the latter will NEVER come to pass...

While pride days may do a nice chunk for the personal self esteem of the gay community, it does little if anything to bring your adversaries over to your side. What it really does is alienate them and make them dislike the whole gay thing even more...



Amy Shapiro
Unregistered User
(7/16/02 10:39:08 am)
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Hi Ned,

I completely disagree.

Gay Pride isn't about, at least to me, earning equal rights or acceptance. It's about unity, inclusion, and everyone in a community that is often disjointed and at odds, all having fun, being themselves, for one day.

As for what it does to our advesaries, well, people who hate us are always going to hate us. The Gay Pride parade is the biggest parade in NYC, participants and spectators included. That, to me, is the mark of acceptance.


NedSykes
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(7/16/02 11:05:31 am)
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Hi Amy...


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I completely disagree.
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I hate it when people make statements like this... it's the sign of a closed mind. It's one thing to disagree, but to COMPLETELY disagree is to discount any idea or belief an individual holds. To COMPLETELY disagree shows a COMPLETE lack of respect for the individual mind... and that lends itself to closing discussion before anything is accomplished. Personally, I disagree with people plenty, but I always try to remember that I could be COMPLETELY wrong in my beliefs, so I try to avoid ultimatums about my beliefs.

Rhetoric lesson over...


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Gay Pride isn't about, at least to me, earning equal rights or acceptance. It's about unity, inclusion, and everyone in a community that is often disjointed and at odds, all having fun, being themselves, for one day.
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Makes sense to me. But what of those that disagree? We all have to share the planet together... why are their feelings irrelevant? Remember, it's not really ONE DAY as you proclaim... it's one day many times over spread throughout the land... so really, it's MANY DAYS. The gay community makes their adversaries feel like they can't get away from homosexuality... IT'S EVERYWHERE! WHERE DO THEY FIND SOLACE?

I'm just pissed because when you talk to gay people, it's all the anti-gay people's fault... and when you talk to the anti-gay people, it's all the gay people's fault. Makes me believe the answer lies somewhere in between , but neither party is willing to BUDGE on their position. Nobody really wants to work on a solution, they just want to GET THEIR OWN WAY.

Maybe everyone just needs to die... QUICKLY!


Amy Shapiro
Unregistered User
(7/16/02 11:43:33 am)
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Well, that's splitting hairs, I think. I wasn't discounting your ideas, I was saying, in the opinion of someone who is a part of the GLBT community, the goals and intended consequences of pride are often not at all what they are perceived to be. Also, one can never be COMPLETELY wrong about their opinion. It's just that.

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Nobody's feelings are irrelevant. Are you talking about people in the community that disagree? There are plenty of them. Often, they aren't the ones marching. I read an article in this week's advocate of some gay male couples who were tired of the glitz and glamour of Pride, and were spending their pride at Home Depot. To each his own. Also, it may be MANY days, as you say, but rarely do the many days get media attention.

Also, you say that "we" as a community make our adversaries feel like they can't get away from homosexuality... I'm sure you've heard the opposite argument. This morning alone, I was probably witness to thousands of people shoving their heterosexuality in my face. Where's my solace? Live and let live. If straight people want to have a parade, let them. I think a LOT of what motivates Pride today is celebrating our differences. The Puerto Ricans have a pretty big parade in NYC too. I've never heard of people complaining that they were shoving their ethnicity in someone's face.

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Just my opinion... I won't BUDGE on my position because I believe all people deserve equal rights, without hating themselves for it.

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HUH?



SteveShack
Big Head
(7/16/02 11:57:09 am)
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ezSupporter
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Everyone dying is Ned's solution to everything.


SteveShack
Big Head
(7/16/02 11:58:27 am)
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ezSupporter
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When I was young, black people were first making their way onto television. I remember hearing one racist say, "Everytime I turn on the teevee, all I see is niggers. Why do they have to be everywhere?"

A bigot is a bigot and pride parades are for those who do not realize that they aren't alone.


NedSykes
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(7/16/02 12:14:42 pm)
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Well, thanks for the input... as usual, I find myself leaning toward your side. But I'm still trying to be sympathetic to all beliefs, which is why this statement bugs me:


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I won't BUDGE on my position because I believe all people deserve equal rights, without hating themselves for it.
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Compromise is CRUCIAL to resolutions. If you refuse to budge, resolutions will never come to pass... So, what ARE you willing to compromise? Isn't there a way you CAN budge on your position and still get equal rights without hating yourself? Please remember that your basic position of "equal rights without hating oneself" contains all kinds of other aside positions that you could most likely live without... but what are they?


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Also, you say that "we" as a community make our adversaries feel like they can't get away from homosexuality... I'm sure you've heard the opposite argument. This morning alone, I was probably witness to thousands of people shoving their heterosexuality in my face. Where's my solace? Live and let live. If straight people want to have a parade, let them. I think a LOT of what motivates Pride today is celebrating our differences. The Puerto Ricans have a pretty big parade in NYC too. I've never heard of people complaining that they were shoving their ethnicity in someone's face.
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Your statement, while basically right on, doesn't take reality into account. It's not about what's right and wrong, it's about GETTING ALONG. Why doesn't ANYONE grasp that? Xtians say it's WRONG to be gay. Homos say it's WRONG to discriminate. Well, you're obviously not gonna see eye to eye on this one, SO WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GONNA DO?

We would be wise to focus on what we're willing to compromise instead of what we're unwilling to give up...

Either that or we can just keep on fighting.


NedSykes
Unregistered User
(7/16/02 12:19:41 pm)
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When I was young, black people were first making their way onto television. I remember hearing one racist say, "Everytime I turn on the teevee, all I see is niggers. Why do they have to be everywhere?"
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There are a lot more black people in the world than there are gay people. And I don't think there are any religious texts that have been interpreted as saying being black is a sin... while the "oppression" angle may be relevant, you're really comparing apples and oranges in the eyes of those who are trying to keep you down.


Amy Shapiro
Unregistered User
(7/16/02 12:31:42 pm)
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In the world? Yes. In this country? No way.


BevSykes 
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(7/16/02 12:40:57 pm)
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the number one complaint I get from my Christian friends about fags is that the fags are constantly trying to shove their sexuality down the throats of hetero-loving Americans (no pun intended).
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If anybody says that to you, ask if the've ever seen a Shriners parade. You probably don't remember that we saw one in Quincy years and years ago (the family reunion of the swimming pool).

I can't remember all the things we saw, but there were lots of "uncomfortable visuals" and "virtual acts of deviance." But I guess that's different, because they're straight.

Or how about a mardi gras parade in New Orleans? Or, for that matter, Carnaval!!! You were at Carnaval in Rio. Would you consider that a nice, subdued, dignified, family values kind of affair?

"Deviance" is in the eye of the beholder.


NedSykes
Unregistered User
(7/16/02 12:43:12 pm)
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Unfortunately one of my biggest weaknesses is that I rarely think on a national level... I'm more of a global thinker. But I also believe global reality has plenty to do with national acceptance. If the United States were the only country on earth with black people, I bet there wouldn't be as much "acceptance" as we currently find. And as for equality, black people are still far from equal.

"I hate patriotism. It was a round world the last time I checked."
--Bill Hicks

It still doesn't change the fact that your adversaries discriminate against you because of something they can't physically hear, touch, taste, smell or see. The thing that drives them to discriminate against you is a ghost. How you gonna fight that without a willingness to compromise?


NedSykes
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(7/16/02 12:52:08 pm)
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"Deviance" is in the eye of the beholder.
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Sigh... I know all this... I have argued this plenty of times with many unreasonble people... people who prefer to believe in the unknown over what's standing right in front of them... it goes absolutely nowhere every single time.

The point I'm trying to make is that RIGHT AND WRONG NEED TO BE THROWN OUT IN THE NAME OF RESOLUTION.

I KNOW my definition of right and wrong...

I KNOW his definition of right and wrong...

I KNOW her definition of right and wrong...

I KNOW your definition of right and wrong...

The FUNNY thing is that all our definitions are different.... WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US?

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Monday, July 15, 2002

What if you loved a moment? What would happen if you could freeze time?

That's what I want to do with my writing. Not what I want to do. What I do. In my journal, I wrote down March 6. Remember that date, I told myself. I became a writer then.

So why the heck am I going through a dry spell? Nothing is splling forth!!!

Sunday, July 14, 2002

I can't believe I fell asleep in the middle of Big Brother 3 last night. Poop on me.

In other news, Dad and Robert are FINALLY coming home today, and I can go back to my life. Wheee :)

Thursday, July 11, 2002

I'll admit it. I am OBSESSED with Cabaret. And not because John Stamos recognized me last time I went. I think it's a beautiful show. I disagree with those idiots on allthatchat.com. I think the Sam Mendes ending is haunting. I'm looking forward (I think) to see what he does to Gypsy.
So Steve's show in El Lay, "The Big Voice" runs one night only on August 12. And I'll be stuck with Pokemon Mania in Delaware. Swell.